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On an individual level, a sovereign could be a Moorish Scientist, a Washitaw, or a citizen under the protection of the Embassy of Heaven. Second , while sovereign citizens reject certain laws, that rejection is predicated on an idealization of law.

For them, law is divinely ordained and underwritten; it has a transcendent and transformative power. Third , the law which sovereigns espouse always supersedes other interpretations of the law. Sovereigns, for instance, create license plates like the one in the Tennessee case because they believe laws regarding vehicle registration and licensing to be corrupt interpretations of the true law, seen not only as directly related to the deity but also as inherently just, universal in application, and capable of being communicated.

Religious sovereigns insist that law, while corrupted by the current political power structure, is available to all as a tool for liberation. Fifth , sovereign claims about the law are understood to be objective; they can be and are justified by citing specific historical instances prior to the corruption of true law. Sovereigns look back to a nostalgically re-imagined, more pristine time—a time is defined by laws and other legal texts treaties, Constitutional Amendments, the Universal Commercial Code, definitions in old editions of law dictionaries.

These are all still accessible and able to be cited can be referenced and discussed. For sovereigns, legal expertise means expertise in the law before its current, lapsarian state; sovereign legal claims are rooted in readings of legal history. Sixth , sovereign readings of legal history are either counterfactual or obsolete. In the court proceedings that followed their arrest, Rosondich and Eshleman, for instance, further justified their eschewal of all American laws by citing the Expatriation Act of The statute allowed immigrants to the United States to renounce their previous citizenship and accept American citizenship, not the other way around.

By conflating religion with law, religious discourse and legal discourse are understood as one and the same. Religious sovereigns understand that just as interpretations of religious scripture or discourse are treated as universal truth, interpretations of law can likewise be treated as universal truth.

This promise, as in the case of Rosondich and Eshleman, is usually deferred. Police and courts are not easily convinced by sovereign arguments. Until that time, religious sovereigns, defining themselves via their knowledge of the law, will continue, like Rosondich and Eshleman, to act upon their beliefs and attempt to convert others to their particular love of the law.

United States Attorney General. Federal District Court of Western Tennessee. Perez, Evan and Wes Bruer. She worked with Prof. Spencer Dew this past summer doing funded student-faculty collaborative research on the sovereign citizen movement in the U. Michael Shermer, founder and publisher of Skeptic magazine, says the U.

Navy also conducted studies with pilots that reproduced near-death experiences. Pilots would often black out temporarily when their brains were deprived of oxygen during training, he says. While the church may be reluctant to talk about heaven, publishers have become true believers. The sales figures for books on heaven are divine: Colton Burpo says he saw heaven and describes the color of Jesus' eyes.

The story is told from the perspective of Colton Burpo, who was just 4 when he slipped into unconsciousness while undergoing emergency surgery for a burst appendix.

Colton says he floated above his body during the operation and soared to heaven, where he met Jesus. My son is teaching me. His new life is a gift. During his journey, he says he was accompanied by an angelic being who gave him a three-part message to share on his return. Not necessarily atheism is stupidity in Full bloom but some atheists are clever enough to keep their stupidity under the radar. Not your case however. People who are dying often have strange dreams as their brains shut down.

This is not proof of heaven. Humanity follows two world-wide sects: One, man intelligent without religion, The second, religious without intellect. Death's debt is then and there Paid down by dying men; But it is a promise bare That they shall rise again.

How many years ago did we cross into North America? Evolution WINS hands down May 21, — The mighty T. Evolving Genes Lead to Evolving Genes: The method identifies gene sets that show evidence for positive selection in comparison with matched controls, and thus highlights genes for further functional studies. Oldest of the old That's not occam's razor. Seeing as you are assuming an all powerful, all present, all knowing deity with no origin and no supporting, observable and repeatable evidence, creation through God is no where near the most likely.

The physical universe of space, time, matter, and energy has not always existed, but was supernaturally created by a transcendent personal Creator who alone has existed from eternity.

I disagree with you faith. I don't see any evidence whatsoever of your deity. Having said that, I'm more closely aligned with the agnostic point of view which rejects any unsupported belief. I don't believe god exists and I don't believe god doesn't exist. In the absense of evidence one way or the other, I don't make the mistake of "making up an answer" to something that can't as yet be answered.

But I try to talk about this in a polite way. Maybe you should give that a try, if you want people to admire your religion. In the absense of evidence one way or the other, I don't make the mistake of "making up an answer" to something that can't as yet be answered".

A copy of his emailed Friday Afterlife Report, that is sent out every Friday, should be most convincing and informative by Australian lawyer, Dr. Zammit, who has devoted much of his time and life on the serious study of this matter. Incidentally, this is a Free report that contains many interviews with leaders in this fascinating field! If you consider that heaven will be filled with the nuttiest Christians imaginable, that many of your loved ones will not only not be there but you will know they are being tortured forever, and that for the rest of eternity you will do absolutely nothing other that to be an ubersycophant kissing gods wonderbutt, well, that sounds like hell.

And Jesus himself was resurrected after his death. These are not imaginations. They are recorded, factual occurrences as written in the Bible. The Bible has persisted through time like no other book on earth. It was written by men who witnessed these events, and they recorded them as they saw them. There is no difference. The Bible states that by the mouth of 2 or 3 witnesses shall all truth be established.

We follow that same principle today regarding our news, our scientific experiments, etc. We regard truth to be whatever is corroborated by multiple sources. The Bible contains the recordings of true occurrences.

Denying those is like denying that the Battle of Gettysburg happened in July in Pennsylvania or that Columbus discovered America in Whether you like it or not, it did happen. You weren't there, but we have the events recorded in history.

You can read about it by many different witnesses, historians, scholars, etc. By the same token, there are countless witnesses, historians, scholars, and even living prophets and apostles among us today, that solemnly declare that God lives, that Jesus is the Resurrected Christ our Lord and Savior , and that They both live today. I also add my testimony to all on this webpage that God and Jesus are real and They live.

I know so because I have felt their comforting presence and have had countless prayers answered over and over again. I understand that there is nothing tangible in my testimony, but that does not change what I know to be true in the least bit.

No one, I repeat no one, can ever convince me that God and His heaven do not exist. I have my own witness and countless other witnesses around me. I invite each one of you to get on your knees, humble yourselves. This is the problem. One cannot even begin to believe without humility.

We cannot gain any understanding of calculus unless we put in the time to study it. I invite all of you to do the same.

Read the Bible, and sincerely ask God to confirm to you His reality and divinity. I promise you that you will gain a testimony of God's Reality and Divinity if you will do this sincerely and with true intent. Do the same with the Book of Mormon. Read it, ask God if it is true, and if you ask with sincere and true intent, He will manifest the truth of it to you. You will have the undeniable confirmation within you confirming it to be true.

Stating that they are facts do not make them facts. Men wrote the Bible. Men have a tendency to lie and exaggerate. I don't believe something just because it's written down, regardless in what century it was written.

Have you ever studied New Testament literature? Matthew's words were certainly not corroborated by Mark, Luke, and John. His words were retold by these writers who all wrote their words well after Matthew's book had already been written. They were just recycling the same stories they had read in Matthew. And Paul certainly didn't corroborate Matthew's words. Most of Paul's writings took place well before Matthew, and never mentioned all the various and amazing - and certainly invented - miracles that Matthew throws into the later story.

Paul only mentions the resurrection. You might want to do some of that "modern reading" that you so blithely dismissed, before lecturing us about the ancient texts. I should have read some of those modern texts myself before mouthing off.

Mark was the first of the gospels, and the others retold his stories. But my point is still the same. They gospels don't corroborate each other - they plagiarize each other. Romney also believe that Michael the Archangel was Adam the first man when he was mortal, and Gabriel lived on the earth as Noah.

The Abraham-Moses myths had their Angel of Death and other "no-namers" to do their dirty work or other assorted duties. We should do the same to include deleting all references to them in our religious operating manuals. It was also the belief of the Babylonians and As-syrians, as their monuments testify, for a figure of a guardian angel now in the British Museum once decorated an As-syrian palace, and might well serve for a modern representation; while Nabopolassar, father of Nebuchadnezzar the Great, says: For example each person has a guardian angel called Fravashi.

Also, the Amesha Spentas have often been regarded as angels, but they don't convey messages, but are rather emanations of Ahura Mazda "Wise Lord", God ; they appear in an abstract fashion in the religious thought of Zarathustra and then later during the Achaemenid period of Zoroastrianism became personalized, associated with an aspect of the divine creation fire, plants, water The gods of the Hitti-tes and Canaanites had their supernatural messengers, and parallels to the Old Testament stories of angels are found in Near Eastern literature.

From magic traditions arose the concept of the guardian angel. Your pal enjoseas sayz, " GodFreeNow For the record, according to your book, God created light on the first day I refer you to the first chapter of your holy book. Some of us, that you see as haters of the light actually believe that the true light or "enlightenment" of man comes from knowledge.

I know facts aren't really important to you, so I wonder about even taking the time to comment on your post. Creation is something from nothing, correct? So which is the lie, that god is light, or that god created light? You don't need a physics degree to understand that light is finite.

It is a dying source and when you fast-forward the universe, it will be dark. The only thing eternal is darkness. All of the trillions upon trillions of suns struggle to create the faintest light in the darkness of space.

You statement is as much devoid of common sense than it is evidence. Rather it is the question "How? Nonsense is just another way you distract yourself from seeing the truth of existence. Wallow in it if you will, but don't expect people to respect your ignorance.

If you want evidence, try google. I will not waste my time with educating the lazy or voluntarily deaf. The rest of your post devolved into babble, but I will pass along a bit of self-help information to you Be the person you wish to be seen as. From all accounts of your post, if you were the person you wished to be seen as, then I must conclude that you are ignorant, and stubbornly disconnected from reality. I seriously doubt this is how you wish others to see you.

Having a differing opinion is great. Heated discussion is great. Just take a minute to educate yourself on some of these things before posting. It makes the process more enjoyable for everyone. I enjoy repartee and I'll gladly engage you, but I'd rather we found ourselves on more equal footing. Education doesn't change the heart of man. If we take these "death" experiences as real, we must take the bad with the good. I recall hearing some decades ago so the details are not entirely clear of the experience of a young South African girl I forget whether she was 9 or perhaps 11 who died on the operating room table but was revived.

She, too, reported approaching the brilliant light and what she took to be heaven when a group of angry white people rushed out, called her a derogatory name I think it was something like "Blackie and said people of her kind weren't allowed in heaven.

So, I see nothing in these "death" experiences to defer me from concluding that if heaven exists, it is populated by white, racist bigots. By the way, the hospital staff denied making any statements that could have been the basis for her experience. For those who may have followed an argument I had with Chad about this article, here is the real disagreement I had with him.

The side-track about what entails circular logic had nothing to do with the actual claim being argued, namely that:. Patients who were clinically dead recalled memories of experiencing the afterlife.

Therefore, the afterlife exists. Here are my problems with the conclusion. I don't accept the premise that these patients were indeed dead for two reasons, and because of one additional corroborating phenomenon.

The definition of death that I accept, is the irreversible cessation of bodily functions. These patients' cessation of bodily functions were reversed, which indicates to me that they weren't completely dead. They remembered their experience. Although mystics will tell you that the soul can live and remember things without the benefit of a living brain, I don't currently accept that.

What I accept is that thought and memory are functions of a living brain. Finally, other subjects who never were declared clinically dead, but only had experienced a loss of blood flow to their brains, have also consistently reported the same experiences. I'll believe the conclusion only after I can be convinced that the original premise is genuine. Eben Alexander was in a coma.

Consequently, his experience can be easiliy explained as a dream. You got nuthin seasick except, " Do you have anything constructive to say lol?? Blake- Why are there no scriptural references in your article about heaven? How can you talk about "heaven" without making mention of what is written in the Bible? The article starts off with 'God help me' and ends with 'angel told me'. We can see why quoting what the angel said is important in Eben' heaven.

Did you expect the church to endorse Eben' heaven?!? Looks like there are lots of contradictions to the truth in Eben' heaven. The pastors talk about eternal life, not sure where you got the notion that pastors have stopped discussing eternal life. All in all, this article is about your perception about heaven rather than the HEAVEN, as we know it from reading the scriptures!! Afterall, heaven is a place where you worship your creator,if you are not willing to believe in him and have made that choice to be separated from him, it was your decision to be separated from God.

Be wise and make the right choice! The heavenly state would be more manifest in the here and now but for the fact that we accept the belief of being only material fleshly limited beings instead of the spiritual image and likeness of the divine Mind which Jesus knew and embodied. Many people throughout history have glimpsed the heavenly state here and now- a state free from evil, matter and darkness. One would experience more of heaven here but for the penchant that mortals have for living the illusions of the human game and denying the truths of immortality that will set them free.

I won't be able to smoke any until I'm What's the matter, got tired of yankin' it? Dude, you're not even a good troll. You're B-game at best. It exists, one supposes, for a "reason".

The human mind cannot accept that "Ex nihilo, nihil fit" may not always hold. Seriously, what's the big deal? One is true, and one is not true. But what's the value-add in holding on to this idea that I am responsible for this mess? They have minds and feelings and what-not. Something presumably underpins this cognition. Why all the emotional investment in it being made of "soul" whatever that is. Just my two cents: Call me crazy, but I think you all used to just guess at how I set everything up back before I gave you science.

I really didn't anticipate all the emotional hubbub that would come up when your old hypotheses would be shown to be untrue. I mean, really, what difference does it make? The universe came from somewhere, your minds are made of something, etc. Why do you care so me darn much just where and what? I would think that you'd be happy to just be here for crying out loud.

And that you would have shown just a little appreciation when I gave you a way to actually satisfy your curiosity and get a peak behind the curtain. Hmmm, maybe time for a comet or flood or something. What does it say?


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